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Dingo Scout mech -Collab by Rob-Cavanna Dingo Scout mech -Collab by Rob-Cavanna
Dingo mech 3D sketchup model created by Todd Norton :iconltla9000311: for OPDS. :thanks:

You can see his original work here: [link]

I only did minor retouching and the graphic presentation

There will be a turreted version coming up later...

Map of Tunisia from here: [link]
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MercenaryGraphics Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Very fun!
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
:thanks:
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Soap971 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Holy crap, the ancestor of the Metal Gear !?... Well done ;)
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
That is a game I'd love to play! The origin story of the original Boss. :eager:
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Soap971 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's would be awesome for sure ! During WWII :)
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deadborderbob Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
Crikey! Dingo took my mechanised walker!
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CadianConcript Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012
Wow Todd, you did masterfuly dude =)
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
He sure did! It's exactly what I was hoping for. :D
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ltla9000311 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
WOW! Thanks for the touch-up on the Dingo Rob! I have to say that everything you've done to it in PS is excellent! Thanks for including it in the OPDS lineup!

I have to dust off the M16 with the quad mount and finish it up! (Along with the Morser) Hard to do when I've been working 16 hours a day 6 days a week lately.....
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
Thanks, Todd! I'm glad you like the presentation. Your alt. version w/ tank turret will not be neglected either.

That schedule is brutal!!! My heart goes out to you. Please don't feel forced to push OPDS work if your free time is very short.
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ltla9000311 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
No, seriously, thank you for including it in your line-up. I've never really had anyone like the stuff I came up with. So I'm honored you would consider it worthy.
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
Everything is groovy so far. The SdKfz 222 and the Karl are both great. They've already paid rent for a space in the OPDs folder -just need to move in. My apologies for not getting to it all sooner. I'm lucky to have friends who are on the same wavelength w/ the project, and who are so willing to give their time to cranking out these ideas. Probably I don't show enough appreciation by doing my noodling little touch ups right away.
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ballisticCow Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
hehe that looks fun! :D
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
Yeah... riding an open-air mech is totally the way to go!
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ballisticCow Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
tally-ho chaps! :D
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DeadDogpod Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
well bring me a cup of tea, i feel like hunting something with that beauty
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
Probably the DAK in this case...
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
Love the little sun shade! And the feet are absolutely awesome! This would have no trouble in deep sand at all! All it has to do to loose an enemy is take it into soft sand. I take it those are grenade launchers on the sides of the cowling?

At Excellent work as always gentlemen!
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ltla9000311 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Nope those are smoke grenade launchers. For getting out of those sticky situations....
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012
Yep, would work so long as the Dingo pilot doesn't get confused too! LOL

And I think with that metal chassis they'd have to have a gyroscopic compass to get a directional fix.
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ltla9000311 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I like that idea of the compass....Maybe n the next version.

I think they would use good old seat of the pants navigating with a handheld compass and a map!
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
:D Welcome for the ideal.

I can't remember how they actually did it during WWII. I think Sherman tankers actually had to get out to get compass readings.

And if I remember a lot of tanks didn't even have radios, so confusion would be the order of the day.
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ltla9000311 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah in Rob's OPDS timeline,, there is alot of room for variants. I just gotta find the time!
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012
I understand that!

Well, you guys are doing great anyway, time lacking or not!
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ltla9000311 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
THanks!
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
Yeah, this thing could definitely travel where even the better adapted LRDG recon jeeps couldn't.
Soft sand is a bitch to walk on by foot too. Nobody would want to give chase.
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012
Exactly! Even the best wheeled and tracked vehicles don't do well in soft sand. They're just too heavy. Only ones who could give chase might be Bedouins on camels LOL
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
:laughing: probably true! I really should try to work that scenario in somehow. The idea of a recon mech vs. camels is too funny.
Good old meat power vs. machine power.

Actually, I have read that horses and other beasts of burden were heavily used by Germany in the early blitzkrieg years.
Which implies that, in truth, the blitz was not as fully mechanized as strategic theory implies.
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
It wasn't. And the US used mules too. Especially in Italy. They were way better at transporting ammo and supplies up and down mountains than trucks were.

And if I remember rightly, I think I've seen pictures of Germans using horses to pull light artillery pieces. I think on the Russian front too if memory serves.

And it makes sense too. Mules don't break down as often as machines do. (with some care) and it'd be easier to find fodder for them in the spring and summer than to find fuel or have parts shipped all the way from Germany. And they can be commandeered along the way too. Whereas if they grab a Russian machine, the logistics of repair become a nightmare because of a lack of parts.

So, both sides were still using animals. And I think the US Navy SEALS used them in Afghanistan as well.

They haven't perfected the "big dog" robot yet for field use as a pack mule.
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
the fact that mules were used in Italy, specifically to deal w/ rough terrain seems to be another mark in favor machines w/ legs. Tho a mule can still probably go many places that even the most agile mech cannot.
And as an added bonus, if things get really desperate.. you can always eat your pack animals! :P

I'm anxious to see how this big dog program turns out. Reminds me a lot of that wolf mech from MGS4...
could be that the first legit miliatry mechs to see service will be 4 legged.
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
Yeah, you can eat the mules, though you about have to shoot the mule skinner to do it! LOL

And yeah, it is kind of interesting. And I'd thing 4-6 legged would be probable. In fact, I think this company volunteered robots to help investigate the Japanese nuclear plants that were destroyed in the big quake and tsunami. I don't know if they used the "big dog" or not. They're also working on a "Cheetah" robot that can outrun a human.[link]

Not sure all this is good ideal, but, there it is. They're building Terminators and Ravage from the freaking Transformers cartoons LOL

This planet is getting weirder by the day.
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soundwave3591 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
smoke grenade dischargers.
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
yep. :D
This thing is not designed for heavy combat. Peek and run.
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012
Good call guys!

Though I was thinking maybe some frag grenades for anti-infantry might be handy. Even with all the heavy metal stomping around, you still have to worry about the PBIs tossing a fire bomb on you....from a galloping camel. (though I suppose that would make them calvary or mounted infantry, technically)Also, a few frag and HE grenades would work wonders if they came to a road block manned by infantry on a mountain road or in a gorge. Just thinking out loud.

I wasn't thinking it was designed to go toe to toe with even a medium mech. Especially not with the open top!
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
Man, one well-placed hand grenade would be brutal! Or even a simple fire bomb.

I fully intend to explore the possibilities of very bold infantry tactics totally neutralizing mech forces.
In action, it's be a little like Motoko Kusanagi fighting that spider mech at the end of GIS... but w/ better results!
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
If you can find them, try and find Battletech books! Specifically the Grey Death Legion series by Michael Stackpole.

The leader of the Grey Death had lots of innovative means of using infantry against mecha. Especially Mercenary's Star where he was fighting a guerrilla war against superior forces is good. (you may have to search in a used book store to find it) Well worth it though! They're some of my favorite military sci-fi books
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
I think :iconthomastapir: once recommended the same books for that exact reason. But it's good to be reminded. Thanks, Mike!
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
Welcome! Always willing to do what I can to help out man!
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DragonStrider Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I love the brit peekin from the turret.Looks speedy and cartoony at the same time.
What is the German equivalent?
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
How about these:
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Could be others, of course...
There is an SdKfz 251 Biped in the works. But for scouting, an SdKfz 250 would be even better.
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
Of the three the Kubellaufer + Kettenkrabbe looks to me to be the fastest, but, the Dingo looks waaaay faster and and has better crew protection.
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
In terms of the armored car it's based on, it used to have a folding roof on early models, but they ditched it because no one ever used it, and it gave crap protection anyway.

It's best assets were excellent mobility and inconspicuousness.
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012
Yeah, in that environment all a roof would do would be hold the heat from the metal in the machine.

Yep, the mobility thing is true of all lightly armored machines in a heavy armor environment.

I don't know if this is relevant, but, I'll thrown it out for future consideration. I had a friend who was a fanatical Mecwarrior3 fan. He preferred a Puma (fastest machine in the game) and put an AC-20 on it (heaviest auto-cannon in the game) But, to do that he had to take off ALL the armor. He got hit once, he was done, but, his tactics were to run up to the enemy at high speed and knock them over with the cannon, then run like hell while dodging like mad. Don't know if that would fit into your game scenario, but, I thought I'd throw it in case you could use it.
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
Your buddies Puma sounds very much like a tank destroyer in terms of tactical utility. In ODPS, those are the exact tactics I'd apply to the light "mech destroyers".
And even more modest vehicles, which will be just open-topped gun platforms w/ legs. One of my watchers suggested that cool idea. Perhaps it was you?
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
His tactics were kind of like helicopter tactics. Instead of pop up tactics he'd use dead ground to get close, run up and cut loose, then run like hell back out of their line of site at a dead run.

Another thing he did was run around them in circles pegging off shots at the back of the machine, because he could run faster than they could turn.

Basically he'd peck them to death LOL

And I don't remember if that was me or not, but, it is a good ideal. If you don't have heavy armor and are faster than your enemy, then hit and run is the way to go.
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
Actually, not so different from the tactics of Sherman crews either. Since their guns were fucking useless in a head on assault against Tigers and Panthers. -circle around fast as possible and attack the side or rear armor.
But this is also a lot easier for tanks w/ turrets and mechs w/ high agility + waist rotation. Mechs and mech destroyers would be at a disadvantage flanking at close range. But then they'd have bigger guns, making long range engagement easier.
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soundwave3591 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
i can just imagine 2 "desert rats" galloping along in that thing.
"oy! slow down, Archie! you're spillin' the tea!"
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Wastelander7 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
soundwave3591~ Dang! I wish we had like buttons for posts on here! LOL
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012
:laughing: exactly!
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